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Another Dialog on Homosexuality and Gay
Marriage
Another visitor to this website recently had comments to make
about the essay
"Homosexuality Is Not
Normal" written by “A Rational Advocate“. As a result, the following
dialog developed between the visitor, who is given the name Mr. H, and
A Rational Advocate (ARA).
Initial email #1. From: Mr.
H,
Even though I grew up in an ultra-conservative fundamentalist
environment where those around me believed it was a sin for a black person and a
white person to be romantically involved much less two people of the same sex to
love each other, ignorance and narrow-mindedness such as yours never ceases to
amaze and appall me. How typical.
I have a question: Have you ever had a close friend that
you later found out was gay? After reading your little article, I'm
guessing the answer is a big "no". Having someone in your life that you
know intimately that you discover is gay will open your eyes to the fact that
this person isn't some sicko that you hear about in the news or some juicy news
piece or statistic in the newspaper. You will discover that they are
normal individuals with feelings and opinions...good American citizens who
deserve to be respected and to be granted all of their basic human rights - one
of which is to marry the person they love no matter what gender they may
be.
Before you write an article that bashes
gays, maybe you should consider gaining some first-hand knowledge of them by
befriending one. Or is this too much to ask? I'm sorry that you feel
compelled to write such hate-filled material, and I hope that one day your eyes
are opened and you see who you are hurting with your words.
Response to email#1.
Dear Mr. H,
Thank you for you email. I assume you are referring to the
article "homosexuality is not normal.". I have known a number of people
who may have been homosexual. Those that I have met and dealt with both on
a personal and business level never openly declared their orientation and I
never asked about it. As far as I was concerned they were just like all
the other people with whom I came in contact who could have had their own
private inclinations of a heterosexual or homosexual nature. It was none
of my business.
It becomes my business when an effort is being made to educate
future generations that homosexuality is normal when it is not. When I say that
I am dealing with the act not the person. The simple reason that it cannot
be normal is that men and women have complementary sex organs. It is
obvious, it is a fact, it cannot be denied. It is not only my view, but that of
many others, that people of the same sex who wish to co-habitate, whether it be
for sexual reasons or not, should have all the legal rights and privileges of
married people with the exception of the name. Their unions should be
called something like Civil. Why is that so objectionable to you?
I think you would agree that people should respect the rights of
others to raise their families as they wish, providing it doesn't infringe on
the right to live their own respective desired life styles. It follows
then that those homosexuals desiring to have their unions be given the name
"marriage" want to force society to approve their way of life at the expense of
the way of life of others. Is this fair?
Perhaps I should add here that if one in my family were to
declare themselves a homosexual I would still adhere to what I have
stated. Since it would be of a personal nature I certainly would provide
other words of advice.
I respect the rights of others to live their way of life and
sincerely hope that they can find happiness with it. All I ask is that
they do not actively support the attempt to alter the way of life that others
wish to live.
Why is it that people give the term "hate-filled" to opinions to
which they don't agree? Reread my article.
Email #2. From Mr. H,
Thank you for your reply. I was indeed referring to your
article entitled "Homosexuality Is Not Normal". I do not wish to get into
an e-mail battle with you here, but I have backed down for years when dealing
with people as yourself and I cannot bring myself to do so in this
instance.
There is a serious flaw in your thinking. Homosexuality is
not a behavior, a lifestyle, a choice, a private inclination, or any sort of
"desired lifestyle" as you called it. Homosexuality is who a person is,
period. When I see someone who is heterosexual, the first thing that comes
to my mind is not how they have sex or what turns them on sexually, but this
seems to be the case with how many people view homosexuals. Your e-mail
and your article clearly bear out this ignorant view. It's not about
having complimentary sex organs, but about who a person is attracted to and who
they love on many levels beyond just physically.
Why should homosexuals be given the right to have the title of
"marriage" when they join with someone they love? I don't know if you are
married or single, but imagine that if you were single and were wanting to marry
the girl of your dreams only to be informed that it was against the law because
the love you felt for your girlfriend was not "normal". Everyone else in
the world was afforded this simple right, but you were not. How would that
make you feel? Would you want to settle for a "civil union"? You
would still be granted most of the same rights as married couples, but you
wouldn't really be married...it would just be a civil union. It's just not
the same is it? It's actually a bit of an insult...a pacifier for a
whining baby.
How does my wanting to have the legal title of marriage placed
on my union infringe on anyone elses rights? How is this at "the expense
of the way of life of others"? Why are you threatened? It really
makes no sense whatsoever. Are heterosexual marriages suddenly going to
fall apart once homosexuals are legally allowed to marry? I think
not. The only lives that we are "altering" are our own lives, not the
lives of heterosexuals. The whole concept of you and others being
threatened by gay people wanting to marry is preposterous. Whether you
think so or not, your opinions on this subject are filled with hate. It's
sad and disturbing, because you think you merely have a different opinion than
mine when in reality it is an opinion that is hurting and depriving so many good
people in this country. May you one day see where you went so very
wrong.
Response to email#2.
Dear Mr. H,
Let's cut to the chase. Although homosexual couples would
be receiving the same legal rights and benefits as heterosexual couples by
entering into a "civil union" you say that would be insufficient lacking the
title of marriage. Let's examine the potential effect of providing this title to
homosexual unions.
The most serious from my point of view is that youngsters could
grow up believing something that is not factual. That homosexual couples
can conceive children in the same manner as heterosexual couples. I assume
that you would propose adoption as being the same as conception and this is also
not factual. It is not the truth. There are already actions to place
texts in public schools meant to indoctrinate youngsters at a very early age to
believe that having two mommies or two daddies is normal, which it is not. In my
opinion, this next generation would have more mental and emotional problems
confronting them than has ever existed in the past as a result should this
occur..
It is difficult to conceive why homosexual couples would want to
be so selfish as to impose their desires on those others of us in society who
wish to identify marriage as being between a male and female. Since they
would enjoy the same legal rights and benefits as heterosexual couples why would
they want to be so callous of the feelings of those who simply want to raise
their children in a society that portrays the factual truth. It seems to
me that you are so concerned with your own feelings that you have neglected to
view the feelings of others who would be affected by what you support.
Regarding love, it is a most mis-used term. One can love
another without marrying them. There are many heterosexual couples living
together, with children, that have not married and I would assume that most of
them love each other. Many that do get married do so to insure that they
are covered by the law as to their rights and benefits. I know of such
couples and the title of marriage is not important to them. There is also love
for members of one's family but we don't marry them.
It is also difficult to understand why most homosexuals
apparently include themselves in the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender
alliance, that by its nature supports various deviant behavior, if they feel as
you do. I do appreciate the fact that people are born with
homosexual tendencies to a greater or lesser degree. In my life, I
have known homosexuals, some known sooner and some known later, to have such
tendencies but were able to marry a person of the opposite sex and conceive
children. Of recent experience, there is such a person I know who is a
respected Judge, a father of two children, who has divorced and now lives with a
person of the same sex.
You must also recognize that youngsters, especially teenagers,
have a strong sexual drive which can lead them to sexual
experimentation. It is hard to not conceive of the occasion when some such
youngsters, under the forced social acceptance of the social structure you
advocate, would find it acceptable to enter into homosexual associations that
would effect their later desire for heterosexual relationships. It would
tend to further deteriorate the moral and social structure that has been
weakened by the trend towards sexual promiscuity of both homosexuals and
heterosexuals.
To make it perfectly clear I will answer your specific
questions. 1. How does my wanting to have the legal title of marriage placed on
my union infringe on anyone else’s rights? Answer: As I have previously
said, because heterosexual couples will have the right for their children to be
educated to understand the truth infringed upon. I have already provided a
detailed explanation in the second paragraph of this email. 2. Would you
want to settle for a "civil union"? Answer: Yes, whether a
heterosexual or homosexual as long as my wife and I had the same legal benefits
and rights of married people. 3. How is this at "the expense of the way of
life of others"? Why are you threatened? Answer: It has to do with what
most heterosexuals want for their children and grand children that cannot be
realized when their education both in and out of school is not based on the fact
that it takes complementary sex organs to reproduce the species, that the core
family is based on man, woman and children - and - there is a difference between
homosexual unions and heterosexual unions because it is a fact.
Mr. H, you freely throw out terms like "flaw in your thinking"
"ignorant". I could also do this in regard to your comments but have not
done so. It is be better for me to say that I do not believe that those
who agree with your position are thinking rationally and, in doing so, are
selfishly disregarding the negative effects that it would have on our social
structure.
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